tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post5579119861138045466..comments2024-03-26T10:40:40.676-04:00Comments on Pardon Me For Asking: Celebrating A Giant Plumbing Device: Last Night's Gowanus Canal Flushing Tunnel Centennial ParadeKellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17882047670852126739noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-39945124506867239272011-06-23T18:25:21.901-04:002011-06-23T18:25:21.901-04:004:46 - and the adult who accompanied them couldn&#...4:46 - and the adult who accompanied them couldn't read either, of course. BTW, the EPA did not fine the City - but the City is a PRP - potentially responsible party. Why do people keep putting wrong stuff out there about the EPA? Obviously the majority of the community is grateful that they are here. Thank you EPA.Gowaneenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-65775770902289284502011-06-23T16:46:22.016-04:002011-06-23T16:46:22.016-04:00It's possible the kids can't read the sign...It's possible the kids can't read the sign because the mayor has had to layoff teachers to pay the EPA Superfund fine!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-63742120241113327502011-06-23T14:15:41.736-04:002011-06-23T14:15:41.736-04:00@1:31 Stay away and there's no reason to clean...@1:31 Stay away and there's no reason to clean it up? If the Dredgers' warning about the canal's toxicity was so clear, then why did the innocent little girl put her hand in the water? The canoe-ists didn't adopt the waterfront. It's not theirs to adopt, for one thing. The Dredgers, by the way, were against Superfund cleanup and took the side of Toll that the water was clean enough as is. I stay away from contact with the water because, unlike fecal matter of which I may be ignorant being on a door handle when I touch it, that canal water has been exposed by scientific examinations to be toxic to the point where it's parts per hundred where it's usually parts per million. Enuf said. Your "stay away and there's no reason to clean it up" is a very disposable human-centric attitude for one thing. You've undoubtedly heard the question, if a tree falls in the forest and no one heard it, did it make a sound? We should clean up our natural environment because everything is related, we are living in one planet, Earth. Poisons here affects life in the entire Hudson-Rariton Estuary, and beyond.enuf already!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-46415011532648272842011-06-23T13:31:49.549-04:002011-06-23T13:31:49.549-04:00Mom,
Contaminants are all around us. Swab a door...Mom,<br /><br />Contaminants are all around us. Swab a door pull from any City school and you'll likely find fecal matter. Test the rails of Canal bridges and you'll discover lead paint toxin. <br /><br />There's a big sign at the Dredgers launch site informing the community of the dangers of this waterway. Ignorant people want to stop the environmental advocacy that's created when canoeist adopt a neglected waterfront. Stay away and there's no reason to clean it up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-38211509851711267822011-06-23T08:18:43.412-04:002011-06-23T08:18:43.412-04:00@Mom. A few drops of it (Gowanus water) on one'...@Mom. A few drops of it (Gowanus water) on one's skin would do damage? Um...if someone wasn't told about its toxicity - that girl might wipe her eyes, her face, might touch someone else, might hold something to eat, might put her fingers in her mouth - As a mom myself, I would not want my child to have contact. If contact were made I would certainly get that stuff off asap. Remember the accident a few years ago when some car plunged into the canal. The rescuers had to go to the hospital and take long showers and get a hepatitis shot. This was BEFORE the EPA said how toxic it was.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-73958212282333317742011-06-22T23:05:25.540-04:002011-06-22T23:05:25.540-04:00pardon my ignorance, but is the water's toxici...pardon my ignorance, but is the water's toxicity so potent that just getting a few drops of it on one's skin would do damage? i wouldn't hand my kid a glass of it to drink, but frankly i'm a little surprised to hear people so concerned about instantaneous surface contact.Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01788659461376967291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-48108829180777582652011-06-22T20:48:32.188-04:002011-06-22T20:48:32.188-04:00@N Buccalo Yes, it would be great for the City to ...@N Buccalo Yes, it would be great for the City to invest in infrastructure so that the canal would no longer be a sewer. But I get nervous when I think of Gowanus as a potential source of revenue for the City, because the only ideas I've heard so far from the City are pretty hideous - their support for Toll Bros., for example. What we have in Gowanus is an openness and nature that is very rare and precious in our urban environment. I think creative minds and will could make something pretty special here that could create revenue - but it would have to be outside the box we have sofar been presented by money people and political people. Estuaries can have tremendous economic potential - the majority of fish that are caught lived in an estuary for part of their life cycle. We saw some pretty amazing out of the box ideas presented by Columbia students last month for Gowanus, also.J.T.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-34365089088338482712011-06-22T18:42:06.833-04:002011-06-22T18:42:06.833-04:00Thanks, Lisa.
it really is a great community.Thanks, Lisa.<br />it really is a great community.Katiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06484246196723019291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-52860231300885834502011-06-22T18:01:03.609-04:002011-06-22T18:01:03.609-04:00I love the mix of community in your coverage, the ...I love the mix of community in your coverage, the mix in Gowanus. Sweet pix of the kids.lisanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-33456890414509750362011-06-22T16:57:34.567-04:002011-06-22T16:57:34.567-04:00I also noticed the canal has been a bit smelling o...I also noticed the canal has been a bit smelling over the last week or so, but over the last several years there really hasn't been much of a stink except after heavy rains, and certainly not like it was in the '90's when you could smell it a couple blocks away.<br /><br />The flushing tunnel is one step, the need to capture all storm water and sewer overflow and pipe it out to the river is the second half of what is required. While hopefully the superfund will remove poisons, not addressing the sewage will continue to leave, what could be an asset, as a thorn in our communities side. For the potential revenue that could be generated for the city with a clean canal, it's a very small investment to make it totally clean. After all, the Gowanas lies between two very popular neighborhoods.NBuccalohttp://www.simpletwig.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-41148771333871295672011-06-22T16:24:51.287-04:002011-06-22T16:24:51.287-04:00@2:41 Just so there is no confusion created - Huma...@2:41 Just so there is no confusion created - Human contact is not, I believe, the impetus for EPA. I am not sure that they will be able to get the water that clean. After all, it will still have raw sewage -the CSO issue is to be addressed by the City, and unless they stop using the canal as a sewer (which even the upgrading of the flushing tunnel will continue to do), the raw sewage will continue to enter into the canal. You would still not want to swim in the canal, for example, even after Superfund cleanup.<br />As one who was not thrilled to see the girls in the canoe on the water, I can assure you that I am NOT for the private development a la Toll. People like the Dregders who take others out in canoes should really disclose how toxic that water is.Marienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-86849830146376847342011-06-22T14:41:27.081-04:002011-06-22T14:41:27.081-04:00Human contact with water is the impetus for the EP...Human contact with water is the impetus for the EPA cleanup. EPA caught fish in Canal with toxins but that’s from fish bottom-feeding outside the Gowanus (where there’s growth in the sediment).<br /><br />Concerns about kid safety and banishment of recreational boating from Gowanus are just arguments that EPA should remove the superfund designation so private development (cleanup) can proceed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-50171108057237603232011-06-22T11:15:13.912-04:002011-06-22T11:15:13.912-04:00I wish they hadn't charged for the refreshment...I wish they hadn't charged for the refreshments at the end. I was thirsty and did not have any cash on me. The Miss Gowanuses were lovely.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-11120901592241123172011-06-22T10:55:01.328-04:002011-06-22T10:55:01.328-04:00@10:12 walking over the bridge is very different f...@10:12 walking over the bridge is very different from being in the water. No chance of contact when you walk over. One of the children in the canoe actually picked one of the tossed lilies out of the water with her bare hand. An innocent act - but not in toxic water. I wish she would have been warned not to have that water contact.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-27440206917093673092011-06-22T10:12:59.939-04:002011-06-22T10:12:59.939-04:00Concetta,
I see people walk kids over the bridges...Concetta,<br /><br />I see people walk kids over the bridges all the time and expose them to the toxic odors. The EPA should levy superfund fines against those parents!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-15050915426192770542011-06-22T09:54:47.377-04:002011-06-22T09:54:47.377-04:00ditto concettaditto concettaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-26485984141027513652011-06-22T09:29:53.174-04:002011-06-22T09:29:53.174-04:00someone should call child protective service--i wo...someone should call child protective service--i wouldn't take my kid out on the gowanus!concettanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-2917161493797519002011-06-22T09:03:06.474-04:002011-06-22T09:03:06.474-04:00Proteus Gowanus announcement said celebration woul...Proteus Gowanus announcement said celebration would end with refreshments. They omitted they charged for these, which is a bit tacky, sorry. It was a very hot day. There were sweet kids from the nabe, also. If I would have known they would have charged, I would have put out a table with free lemonade and cookies. It wouldn't have cost more than $30 bucks. Once every hundred years...neighbornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-70258177996942244922011-06-22T07:56:19.280-04:002011-06-22T07:56:19.280-04:00The CSO's will only be reduced 34% with this n...The CSO's will only be reduced 34% with this new project - does that include all CSO sewage from all new development that may happen in the Gowanus watershed? This area is huge, and is comprised of many neighborhoods.<br />http://issuu.com/proteusgowanus/docs/gowanus_blueways_map_draftAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com