tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post512171543559660746..comments2024-03-28T13:46:38.346-04:00Comments on Pardon Me For Asking: EPA Discusses Proposed Clean-Up Plan For Gowanus Canal In More Detail With Community Advisory Group Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17882047670852126739noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-72526702355795923692013-02-15T00:34:54.736-05:002013-02-15T00:34:54.736-05:00re: Red Hook, ya'll already have an invading a...re: Red Hook, ya'll already have an invading army of Municipal Solid Waste trucks nobody else cares about so what's a little more garbage? "Funny" how all the white (of course) media blathering over "soccer tacos" neglects to mention this little neighborhood detail, or the fact that it's largely accepted because it's mostly project people who live nearby.<br /><br />Regardless, excellent post, Katia.<br /><br />And oh yeah, Quadrozzi is a mafia outfit but I'm sure most of the old-timers here know that and shrug. (I'd rather the Lucchese Family than the fucking Toll Brothers, I'll say that.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-20314210742128566792013-02-14T17:04:29.789-05:002013-02-14T17:04:29.789-05:00I don't expect many in Red Hook will have fait...I don't expect many in Red Hook will have faith in the EPA. Part of the problem is that the EPA person in charge of this plan can't speak about it with a straight face. He is evasive, can't make eye contact, repeats himself constantly and has the demeanor of a man very much uncomfortable with what he being asked (forced) to do. Also he insists there "zero" risk. How can a scientist speak about zero risk when discussing transporting toxic waste, mixing it with cement, and then dumping it into the ocean all in an area that just had a devastating flood? Let's also remember that the EPA has stood silent in the face of Fracking, strip mining, pig excrement dumping, wtc dust, and many other toxic practices which it has deemed to be safe. So, yes, clean the Gowanus - but do the job the normal way, not with weird deals involving profiteering polluters! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-68887322464392958552013-02-14T16:06:47.916-05:002013-02-14T16:06:47.916-05:00To the individual who says they are from Red Hook:...To the individual who says they are from Red Hook: Where did you hear of any plan to do what you suggest, "dumping toxic waste into the ocean next to the ballfields where children play" ?<br />Who ever is telling you that hasn't taken the time to understand what the proposed actions are all about.<br /><br />The only thing "dumping toxic waste into the ocean next to the ballfields where children play" is the present day flow of water from the canal that is mucking up the harbor and the shores of Red Hook.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-28028934000571727512013-02-14T13:10:46.159-05:002013-02-14T13:10:46.159-05:00In regards to the previous comment.The residents o...In regards to the previous comment.The residents of Red Hook are not against the cleanup, but we are against the sludge being processed next to our ball fields and homes. Also the EPA is not giving any real specifics . We've asked the questions but are being told it's all in the planning stages.If you attended last nights meeting at PS15 you might have a different opinion. Also filling in waterfront property and letting a concrete plant owner use it to expand his operations would certainly not be a benefit to our community. The EPA also a has an alternative for the waste that doesn't involve Red Hook.The fact that it's also in a flood zone also needs to be considered. Fact is we weren't given sound answers to the many questions asked at last nights meeting. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/11/john-quadrozzi-toxic-sludge-developer-in-gowanus-could-owe-up-to-20-million-in-environmental-violations_n_2277032.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-13423817935194422482013-02-14T12:32:39.418-05:002013-02-14T12:32:39.418-05:00Hmm, what would motivate Red Hook residents, like ...Hmm, what would motivate Red Hook residents, like me, to not support dumping toxic waste into the ocean next to the ballfields where my children play? Wow! What a question! Here's a better question: why can most of the waste be transported away to be properly treated but some it has to be dumped in Red Hook thereby extending the industrial site belonging to a toxic polluter who has unpaid fines for dumping toxic sludge into the ocean? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-66914778866346945002013-02-14T11:20:53.561-05:002013-02-14T11:20:53.561-05:00Seems to be a distinct strategy going on here: don...Seems to be a distinct strategy going on here: don't listen to what the EPA explains, claim that the EPA hasn't given enough explanation, then claim that the removal of contamination will burden a community. And certainly do not acknowledging that the existing contamination is already a burden on the community. Do these people really not want the EPA to carryout a cleanup?<br /><br />Right now, Red Hook has free-flowing contamination throughout the lower canal region and it is washing up on the shores of Red Hook. The EPA wants to take RED HOOK'S very own contaminated sediment and render it solid and harmless, no longer free flowing in their very own neighborhood.<br /><br />What would be motivating some to make the people in Red Hook fearful of a process to contain their currently free flowing contaminated sediment?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-17008204400096458402013-02-13T15:49:42.528-05:002013-02-13T15:49:42.528-05:00it just seems that the only people EPA is listenin...it just seems that the only people EPA is listening to are the few loudmouths who want to move the problem in their litle community to other neighborhoodsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-44991542159162348432013-02-13T14:57:14.567-05:002013-02-13T14:57:14.567-05:00Over Red Hook most folks had no idea about the mee...Over Red Hook most folks had no idea about the meetings or the proposed Gowanus sludge dump over near the Grain terminal. Not sure why this plan is even on the table at this point considering it's in a flood zone next to the ball fields and one of the largest housing projects in NYC. The fact that they would also fill in waterfront and turnover the land to a concrete plant owner with numerous environmental violations seems reckless. Most residents I've spoken with are firmly against this plan. Tsiamis should rethink this proposal. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-84331006874196540512013-02-13T14:41:06.809-05:002013-02-13T14:41:06.809-05:00perhaps the same people who
wouldn't want the...perhaps the same people who <br />wouldn't want the stench of million's of gals in a sewage tank sited under their community pool..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-46215752058466278372013-02-13T11:54:50.839-05:002013-02-13T11:54:50.839-05:00I think that the timing of the public meetings are...I think that the timing of the public meetings are related to the release of the Plan and not timed in winter "so that pool users cannot be enlisted."<br /><br />Who in their right mind would object to coal tar being removed from under the pool.<br />Katiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06484246196723019291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36892255.post-64662947325288977772013-02-13T11:41:26.851-05:002013-02-13T11:41:26.851-05:00Tsiamis needs to clarify what residents he's a...Tsiamis needs to clarify what residents he's anticipating may object to siting the CDF as no one lives near that location. Is he anticipating objections from the residents using the pool? The EPA holds these meetings in winter months so that pool users cannot be enlisted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com