Thursday, July 17, 2008

Stein's Labyrinth Around 360 Smith And The 2nd Place F Train Entrance

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About a year ago, the M.T.A. informed the Carroll Gardens' community that the 2nd Place F train subway entrance will have to be closed for about 6 to 8 months ( +/-) as part of developer Bill Stein's Oliver House construction at 131 Second Place /360 Smith Street.
On July 28th, the subway plaza will officially be closed.
In preparation, construction crews have bridged the sidewalk along Smith and 2nd Place and have created a plywood pathway from the station entrance to the street. It sort of looks like a labyrinth.
Councilperson Bill DeBlasio's District Director Tom Gray issued this statement on the Carroll Gardens' list server.


Please note this is only an entrance closure, and the station will be
open for business at all times. Customers will be asked to use the two
other station entrances at 2nd Street and President Street. We have
installed two additional high-wheel entrances/exits for customer usage
at 2nd Street, and a station agent will be on duty at all times at the
2nd Street entrance. We will be posting signs at the station in short
time which will notify our customers about the entrance closure and
alternate entrances.

NYC Transit will have an engineer on site at all times during this
construction project in order to ensure the structural integrity of the
station and the safety of our customers. We will be happy to provide
you with periodic updates on the station-entrance reopening schedule as
more information becomes available. In the meantime, you can always
contact me via e-mail or by calling me if you have any questions or
concerns regarding his project.



Below is a photo of the 2nd Street entrance across the street from the Plaza. It will most certainly be very difficult to accommodate a large number of F train riders as the entrance is much, much smaller.
In addition, after going down a narrow staircase, riders have to walk along a narrow passageway to get to the turnstiles. The last time I exited the station through there, my way was blocked by a drugged-out guy who had dragged his bicycle down there with him. See the picture below.
At least the M.T.A has already installed new turnstiles at that end of the station.
That should help.











Related Reading:

A Further Bird's Eye View of 131 Second Place/ 360 Smith Street


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8 comments:

Carola said...

This sucks!!!

Kelly said...

I know. Big time.

Anonymous said...

It will all be over before you know it.

Anonymous said...

This f@#*ing s*@t piss me off. God damn Condo thats going to tower 70 feet over every other build in the area is taking away a piece of the neighbor. Yeah Brooklyn needs more condos for more yuppies and NO I'm NOT Bitter.

Lisanne said...

Last nite i came home and was about to exit at the plaza exit, i look up and there are the neighborhood panhandlers just LOOKING down the stairs, waiting to accost. I should of taken a photo it was classic. Like night of the living dead classic. I never give to drug addicts but i tolerated them in the plaza (and get furious when i see fall for their b.s and give them money) but this just cant fly, there is just no room.

I am familiar with the other guy pictured too...i guess he will have to find a new place to go. anyway i agree with carola& castillo and disagree with anon.

Anonymous said...

I also agree that there needs to be an attendant at the turnstile to help the elderly, disabled, and people with carts, baby carriages, and luggage through the maze. Why is having a public meeting such a big request for the MTA and our elected officials to arrange. To wait for the CGNA meeting in September is totally too late and not acceptable.

My sister came home late Friday night after dark, and she was afraid to go through the main entryway maze and under the scaffolding bridge and around the plaza along Smith Street, so she decided to take the 2nd Street entrance. From the Brooklyn-bound side, she had to go up two flights of stairs, then back down one flight of stairs, through the tall gate, then up a short bank of step and through the scary dark corridor under the street to 2nd Street, then up a flight of stairs to the street level. My sister is frail. She usually goes up the two flights of stairs, and then sits at that landing for awhile to catch her breath, and then she goes out the entry gate and up the final set of stairs to the plaza. Then she would rest at where the cement slab along Smith Street that covers the venting system for the subway.

How many people would never go through the 2nd Street corridor alone!

The wife of Frank, of Frank’s luncheonette, says that the litter in front of her home at the 2nd Street entrance is already triple to what it used to be!

For months we have been asking for some answers from the developer Billie Stein, your office, and NYC Transit about a number of concerns. For some reason, the MTA/NYC Transit can be in communication with the developer all summer, and answer his multitude of questions, but it can't be in communication with us, their patrons. Their job in government relations is community relations, but it is too inconvenient for them to deal with the community. They might get screamed at!!

If they would have answered our questions in the beginning, there would not be all of these rumors that are going like wildfire throughout the community in private emails. I think the MTA is used to dealing with neighborhoods in Manhattan where they just close an entrance and people just shrug their shoulders and use another entrance. I think that Manhattaners just have a feeling of hopelessness, and are resigned to the MTA's incompetence, and subway inconveniences.

When I first moved here from San Francisco in the early 80s, I left work to go home on the subway. I paid my fare and went to enter into the turnstile, and found that the entry was totally flooded and appeared too dangerous to wade across. I asked to get a pass so that I could go to another entrance, and the ticket agent looked at me like I was crazy. I was baffled that people would shrug off a major inconvenience to “business as usual” for the MTA. I was shocked that people would just wade through the water and not complain. This is how the MTA expects their patrons to react! But we are a true neighborhood, and expect a certain level of service, which seems to be a strange request for the MTA. We expect for the MTA to do its job and meet with the community, answer our questions, and address our concerns. Is this too much service to ask?

Anonymous said...

What will Billy say when the mugging and robbery increase due to his bullpen??
I hope this @#%$## screws up and punctures the tunnel ceiling.
The millions he paid will surely be worthn it the.
OH YES..DOES HE PAY THE CITY FOR THE WATER HE USES??
I SURE AS HELL DO.

Anonymous said...

What will Billy say when the mugging and robbery increase due to his bullpen??
I hope this @#%%^^^ screws up and punctures the tunnel ceiling.
The millions he paid will surely be worth it then.
OH YES..DOES HE PAY THE CITY FOR THE WATER HE USES??
I SURE AS HELL DO.